This past Sunday our church had an after worship service forum to discuss something that had been festering for quite some time. It dealt with having the American Flag in our sanctuary, or the lack of one.
I only know what was said by our interim pastor at the beginning of the forum, so I may not know the whole story. From what was discussed, the Christian and American Flags were in the church for as long as some people could remember. At some point in the past few years, the church had some remodelling done. The flags were removed for the remodelling and not returned afterwards.
This is where it gets foggy, but it appears that when people wanted to return the flag there was some resistance to putting it back in place. It was never returned. Since our previous pastor left, some people within the church put it upon themselves to create a petition calling for the return of the flag. This is all fine and well, but the Presbyterian Church’s governing structure does not recognize petitions. In other words, petitions do not sway the governing body of the church. (Elders)
So that leads us to yesterday’s forum. The interim pastor laid out the ground rules and allowed individuals to come to a microphone to voice their opinion.
Each “side” presented some great opinions/arguments. It is my opinion that most people were very polite and didn’t pour gasoline on the fire that was already burning. There seemed to be two arguments presented at the forum.
The first argument expressed the strong tie that they have to the flag. Many veterans (some WWII) felt that the flag belonged in the church as a reminder of how good God had been to us. It reminded them of the sacrifices they had made and others close to them had made for the country that they loved. I am not sure it was said, but I believe some of the feeling on this argument revolves around tradition. Growing up in a Southern Baptist church, I can’t think of a time that there were not flags in the church. I don’t remember where they were exactly in every church, but I do believe they were there.
The second group of people believed that the flag really didn’t have a place inside the sanctuary. The reasoning revolved around passages in the Bible where God said that we are not to have any other god or idol before Him. They also read the verse where Jesus states that we cannot serve two masters. There were even veterans who supported this argument. The flag is presented seasonally and it seemed to be the way most people in this group felt. Some also felt it was a barrier to other religions, cultures or those from other countries.
I’ve had to ask myself where I stood on the issue. In all honesty, I am divided on the issue. I see good points in each of the arguments. Growing up, I have always remembered having a flag in the church. In each VBS (Vacation Bible School) there was always a time where we would say the pledge of allegiance and sing a patriotic song. In the hymns located within the church I attend, there are patriotic songs as well.
After thinking (and googling) I came up with a solution that each group may be able to agree upon. I suggested that we place the flag(s) near the entrance/exit of the building. This could serve two purposes. First, when one enters the church, the flags could be a reminder to use that we need to leave everything at the door. That our purpose is to worship the Lord and nothing else. Upon leaving the church the flags would help us remember Matthew 28:19-20 (the Great Commission):
19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Hopefully we will be reminded that there are people in the world that do not know Christ and that we are commanded to take Him to those people.
Perhaps this would be a compromise that both sides could accept. It would allow those who believe their is a place in the church for the flag. It would also place the flags in a place that would not distract others while they worship the Lord.
However, there will be people who will not be happy with this idea. Some believe that having the flag in the church will serve as a barrier to people. They also believe that it could even be offensive to them. Perhaps I am not tolerant enough to understand this point of view. For instance, why would people have a problem coming into our church if they see a flag? More importantly who would these people be?
One group that was mentioned were Muslims. I don’t understand the logic behind this because there are a great number of Muslims in our country that love America. Would we want to take it away from people who feel a strong tie to it? Another group that was specifically mentioned were people from Iraq (or other countries that may not feel we are treating them with respect among other things). I’m assuming that most of these people, especially in the Mobile area, are exchange students. Perhaps I am being intolerant once again, but I don’t see why we should hide our flag because some people may be offended. In this specific case, these students are studying here in America. Most get to experience the same daily freedoms life as Americans. They get the benefits of freedom while living here. I would imagine that many are here on their own free will looking to better themselves and benefit from our education system; an education system that is provided in America. If anything, the flag should be something that brings pride to all that choose to come here.
Should we remove the cross because it offends people?
We all have prejudices. We all have emotional barriers that we have to get past. If the Flag stands in your way, talk about it. We live in one of the greatest nation in the world. It has its faults, but overall we are blessed to live here. Every one of us.
I hope that the church can find a solution and is able to move forward in telling the Good News of Christ. As someone said last night, “Imagine what we could do If only we had this much passion for sharing Christ with others.”
So true.
Travis Clay